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		<title>Listening to Pandora from outside the US part2</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As Benjamin Horly mentioned in his comment, another alternative way to access Pandora from outside the US is globalpandora.com which works out of the box. It&#8217;s by far the easiest way especially for non-technical people. Have fun.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>As Benjamin Horly mentioned in his <a href="http://dgiakoumakis.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/listening-to-pandora-from-outside-the-us/#comments" title="Ben's comment">comment</a>, another alternative way to access Pandora from outside the US is <a href="http://www.globalpandora.com" title="GlobalPandora">globalpandora.com</a> which works out of the box. It&#8217;s by far the easiest way especially for non-technical people. Have fun.</p>
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		<title>Pandora will stop streaming to the UK</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 09:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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I received the following email from Tim Westergren (founder of Pandora) this morning. It states clearly that Pandora will stop streaming to the UK as of January the 15th.

hi, it&#8217;s Tim,
This is an email I hoped I would never have to send.
As you probably know, in July of 2007 we had to block usage of [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=dgiakoumakis.wordpress.com&blog=2430309&post=21&subd=dgiakoumakis&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
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<p>I received the following email from Tim Westergren (founder of Pandora) this morning. It states clearly that Pandora will stop streaming to the UK as of January the 15th.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:'Courier New';">hi, it&#8217;s Tim,</span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:'Courier New';">This is an email I hoped I would never have to send.</span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:'Courier New';">As you probably know, in July of 2007 we had to block usage of Pandora outside the U.S. because of the lack of a viable license structure for Internet radio streaming in other countries. It was a terrible day. We did however hold out some hope that a solution might exist for the UK, so we left it unblocked as we worked diligently with the rights organizations to negotiate an economically workable license fee. </span></i></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:'Courier New';">After over a year of trying, this has proved impossible. Both the PPL (which represents the record labels) and the MCPS/PRS Alliance (which represents music publishers) have demanded per track performance minima rates which are far too high to allow ad supported radio to operate and so, hugely disappointing and depressing to us as it is, we have to block the last territory outside of the US.</span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:'Courier New';">Based upon the IP address from which you recently visited Pandora, it appears that you are listening from the UK. If you are, in fact, listening from the US, and are denied access from Pandora on or after January 15th please contact Pandora Support: pandora-support@pandora.com.</span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:'Courier New';">It continues to astound me and the rest of the team here that the industry is not working more constructively to support the growth of services that introduce listeners to new music and that are totally supportive of paying fair royalties to the creators of music. I don&#8217;t often say such things, but the course being charted by the labels and publishers and their representative organizations is nothing short of disastrous for artists whom they purport to represent &#8211; and by that I mean both well known and indie artists. The only consequence of failing to support companies like Pandora that are attempting to build a sustainable radio business for the future will be the continued explosion of piracy, the continued constriction of opportunities for working musicians, and a worsening drought of new music for fans. As a former working musician myself, I find it very troubling.</span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:'Courier New';">We have been told to sign these totally unworkable license rates or switch off, non-negotiable&#8230;so that is what we are doing. Streaming illegally is just not in our DNA, and we have to take the threats of legal action seriously. Lest you think this is solely an international problem, you should know that we are also fighting for our survival here in the US, in the face of a crushing increase in web radio royalty rates, which if left unchanged, would mean the end of Pandora.</span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:'Courier New';">We know what an epicenter of musical creativity and fan support the UK has always been, which makes the prospect of not being able to launch there and having to block our first listeners all the more upsetting for us.</span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:'Courier New';">We know there is a lot of support from listeners and artists in the UK for Pandora and remain hopeful that at some point we&#8217;ll get beyond this. We&#8217;re going to keep fighting for a fair and workable rate structure that will allow us to bring Pandora back to you. We&#8217;ll be sure to let you know if Pandora becomes available in the UK. There may well come a day when we need to make a direct appeal for your support to move for governmental intervention as we have in the US. In the meantime, we have no choice but to turn off service to the UK.<br />
</span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:'Courier New';">Pandora will stop streaming to the UK as of January 15th, 2008.</span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:'Courier New';">Again, on behalf of all of us at Pandora, I&#8217;m very, very sorry.</span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:'Courier New';">-Tim Westergren</span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:'Courier New';">(Pandora founder)</span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:'Courier New';">This is a one-time account message</span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I suppose people from the UK will still be able to access Pandora using the method I described in my previous <a href="http://dgiakoumakis.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/listening-to-pandora-from-outside-the-us/" title="Listen to Pandora from outside the UK">post</a>.</p>
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